Confirmations of the Romanian origin of the Roman
Catholics from Moldavia (the so-called “csangos”)
The ultimate confirmation, the "queen of evidence" in determining a person's ethnicity, is
the DNA test
All those who want to know their ethnic origin,
We invite them to do their DNA test for ethnicity.
That's just for them.
For them to find out their identity.
So that they can find out their origin and get to know their ancestors.
For them to be convinced of their true, own identity.
For us, it doesn't matter (their genetic profile).
Whatever the outcome, we consider them brothers in the Lord.
EXPLANATIONS
AND
GUIDELINES
FOR
THOSE
WHO
WANT
TO
KNOW
THEIR
ETHNICITY
The
Human
Genome
Project,
which
has
been
carried
out
by
scientists
around
the
world
since
1990,
is
an
international
genetic
research
project,
developed
with
the
main
goal
of
deciphering
the
human
genetic
code
and
identifying
the
genes
responsible
for
genetic
diseases,
how
these
genes
trigger
the
disease,
prevent
the
occurrence
of
genetic diseases and cure these diseases.
Simultaneously
with
the
main
purpose
of
preventing
genetic
diseases,
once
deciphered
the
genetic
code,
can
contribute
to
understanding
the
history
of
mankind
and
the
evolution
of
the
human
species
but
can
also
contribute
to
establishing
kinship
between
parents
and
children,
implicitly
establishing
the
descendants
of
groups
of
people,
communities.
,
peoples,
so
as
to
highlight
the
genetic
characteristics
of
a
people,
the
historical
evolution
and
genetic
diversity
of
the
members
of
a
people
or
on
the
contrary
the isolation and uniqueness, the typicality of a people.
Apart
from
this
large
project,
scientific
organizations,
universities
around
the
world,
have
carried
out
small-scale
projects
aimed
at
deciphering
the
genetic
code
for
certain groups of people.
In
the
last
20
years,
hundreds
of
millions
of
people
have
resorted
-
on
their
own
initiative
-
to
DNA
tests
to
establish
their
own
ethnicity
and
have
managed
to
find
new family members and discover their ethnic origins.
The
DNA
test
is
non-invasive
and
involves
collecting
the
sample
from
which
the
genetic
material
will
be
extracted,
by
impregnating
it
with
saliva,
using
a
small
cotton swab, on the inside of the cheek, for about 45 seconds.
The sample thus collected is submitted to the genetic analysis laboratory, which will communicate the result in approximately 30 days.
The results of the DNA test are confidential and are communicated only to the holder.
Useful links for those who want to take the DNA test for ethnicity
https://www.myheritage.ro
https://www.ancestry.com
http://www.homednadirect.ro
http://www.eurogentest.org
https://www.23andme.com/
https://www.familytreedna.com/
Those interested can also find other sites specialized in DNA testing, by querying search engines with the text
"DNA testing for ethnicity"
.
From
the
scientific
reports
for
which
there
are
links
at
the
bottom
of
this
page,
but
especially
from
the
statistical
tables
showing
the
genetic
structure
of
the
peoples
of
Europe,
a
structure
established
separately
on
the
basis
of
the
Y
chromosome
and
mitochondrial
DNA,
it
follows
that
other
European
peoples
they
are
a
mixture
of
ethnicities,
the
populations
of
these
countries
each
having
a
majority
genetic
background
but
with
important
genetic
contributions
from
other
European
peoples
and
with
minor contributions from populations from other continents.
From
the
same
statistics,
it
results
that
the
peoples
of
the
Balkan
area
of
Europe,
descend
from
the
populations
that
have
existed
and
developed
on
this
territory
since
the
Neolithic,
in
the
genome
of
these
populations
there
is
a
majority
genetic
fund,
common
to
all
these
peoples.
adds
genetic
contributions
from
other
populations
that
migrated to the area or neighboring populations, with which the locals came into contact, respectively: from Romans, Greeks, Scythians, Sarmatians, Celts, Germans, etc ..
Compared to ancient history, it is found that the genetic background specific to the Balkan region is majority among the peoples of the following countries:
•
SERBIA
-
95
%
of
today's
Serbs
have
the
local
genetic
fund
(common
with
Bulgarians,
Romanians,
Hungarians,
Croats,
Slovenes,
Montenegrins,
Bosnians,
Macedonians,
Austrians
and
Moldovans),
the
conclusion
being
that
most
Serbs
are
descendants
of
living
populations
in
antiquity
in
Illyria,
Dalmatia
and
Moesia
(historical
regions where today are found Serbia, Croatia, Montenegro, Albania, Slovenia, Bulgaria).
•
CROATIA
-
90
%
of
today's
Croats
have
the
local
genetic
fund
(common
with
Bulgarians,
Romanians,
Hungarians,
Serbs,
Slovenes,
Montenegrins,
Bosnians,
Macedonians,
Austrians
and
Moldovans),
the
conclusion
being
that
most
Croats
are
descendants
of
living
populations
in
antiquity
in
Illyria,
Dalmatia
and
Moesia
(historical regions where today are found Serbia, Croatia, Montenegro, Albania, Slovenia, Bulgaria).
•
BOSNIA
AND
HERZEGOVINA
-
90
%
of
today's
Bosnians
have
the
local
genetic
fund
(common
with
Bulgarians,
Romanians,
Hungarians,
Austrians,
Croats,
Slovenes,
Montenegrins,
Serbs,
Macedonians
and
Moldovans),
the
conclusion
being
that
most
Bosnians
are
descendants
of
the
population
who
lived
in
antiquity
in
Illyria,
Dalmatia and Moesia (historical regions where today are found Serbia, Croatia, Montenegro, Albania, Slovenia, Bulgaria).
•
SLOVENIA
-
90
%
of
today's
Slovenes
have
the
local
genetic
fund
(common
with
Austrians,
Bulgarians,
Romanians,
Hungarians,
Croats,
Serbs,
Montenegrins,
Bosniaks,
Macedonians
and
Moldovans)
the
conclusion
is
that
most
Slovenes
are
descendants
of
people
living
in
antiquity
in
Illyria,
Dalmatia
and
Moesia
(historical
regions
where Serbia, Slovenia, Croatia, Montenegro, Albania, Bulgaria are found today).
•
MONTENEGRO
-
90
%
of
today's
Montenegrins
have
the
local
genetic
fund
(common
with
Austrians,
Bulgarians,
Romanians,
Hungarians,
Croats,
Slovenes,
Serbs,
Bosniaks,
Macedonians
and
Moldovans),
the
conclusion
being
that
most
Montenegrins
are
descendants
of
living
populations
in
antiquity
in
Illyria,
Dalmatia
and
Moesia (historical regions where today are found Serbia, Croatia, Montenegro, Albania, Slovenia, Bulgaria).
•
NORTHERN
MACEDONIA
-
90
%
of
the
today's
inhabitants
of
the
Republic
of
Northern
Macedonia
have
the
local
genetic
fund
(common
with
Bulgarians,
Romanians,
Hungarians,
Croats,
Slovenes,
Montenegrins,
Bosniaks,
Serbs,
Austrians
and
Moldovans),
the
conclusion
being
that
most
Macedonians
they
are
descendants
of
the populations that lived in antiquity in Illyria, Dalmatia and Moesia (historical regions where today are found Serbia, Croatia, Montenegro, Albania, Bulgaria).
•
ROMANIA
-
90
%
of
today's
Romanians
have
local
genetic
fund
(common
with
Bulgarians,
Serbs,
Hungarians,
Croats,
Slovenes,
Montenegrins,
Bosniaks,
Macedonians,
Austrians
and
Moldovans)
the
conclusion
being
that
most
Romanians
are
descendants
of
people
living
in
antiquity
in
Dacia
and
Moesia
(historical
regions
where Romania and Bulgaria are found today).
•
HUNGARY
-
85
%
of
today's
Hungarians
have
the
local
genetic
fund
(common
with
Austrians,
Bulgarians,
Romanians,
Serbs,
Croats,
Slovenes,
Montenegrins,
Bosniaks,
Macedonians
and
Moldovans),
the
conclusion
being
that
most
Hungarians
are
descendants
of
living
populations
in
antiquity
in
Dacia,
Illyria
and
Pannonia
(historical regions where today are found Romania, Serbia, Croatia and Hungary).
•
REPUBLIC
OF
MOLDOVA
-
85
%
of
the
today's
inhabitants
of
the
Republic
of
Moldova
have
the
local
genetic
fund
(common
with
Bulgarians,
Romanians,
Hungarians,
Croats,
Slovenes,
Montenegrins,
Bosniaks,
Austrians,
Macedonians
and
Serbs)
the
conclusion
being
that
most
Moldovans
are
descendants
of
populations
who
lived in antiquity in Dacia and Sarmatia (historical regions where Romania, the Republic of Moldova and Ukraine are found today).
•
BULGARIA
-
80
%
of
today's
Bulgarians
have
the
local
genetic
fund
(common
with
Serbs,
Romanians,
Hungarians,
Austrians,
Croats,
Slovenes,
Montenegrins,
Bosniaks,
Macedonians
and
Moldovans)
the
conclusion
is
that
most
Bulgarians
are
descendants
of
people
living
in
antiquity
in
Thrace
and
Moesia
(historical
regions
where
today are found Bulgaria, Turkey (European area), Macedonia, Serbia and Romania).
•
AUSTRIA
-
65
%
of
today's
Austrians
have
the
local
genetic
fund
(common
with
Serbs,
Romanians,
Hungarians,
Croats,
Slovenes,
Montenegrins,
Bosnians,
Macedonians,
Bulgarians
and
Moldovans)
the
conclusion
being
that
most
Austrians
are
descendants
of
people
living
in
antiquity
in
Noricum,
Raetia
and
Pannonia
(historical regions where Austria, Switzerland and Hungary are found today).
The
same
genetic
profile
specific
to
the
peoples
mentioned
above
is
found
in
other
peoples
of
Europe,
but
in
those
peoples
the
majority
genetic
background
is
not
specific
to
the
countries
mentioned
above,
those
peoples
have
a
majority
genetic
background
different
from
one
country
to another.
Among
the
European
countries
whose
inhabitants
have
genes
specific
to
the
Balkan
region,
we
mention
those
with
a
high
percentage
of
inhabitants
who
have
genes
from
the
Thracians,
Dacians
and
Illyrians
and
who
are
related
to
the
current
peoples
of
the Balkan region:
•
SLOVAKIA
- 80% of today's Slovaks have genes from the Thracians, Dacians and Illyrians (peoples who lived in antiquity in the Balkans).
•
CZECH REPUBLIC
- 75% of today's Czechs have genes from the Thracians, Dacians and Illyrians (peoples who lived in antiquity in the Balkans).
•
ALBANIA
- 70% of today's Albanians have genes from Thracians, Dacians and Illyrians (peoples who lived in antiquity in the Balkans).
•
UKRAINE
- 60% of today's Ukrainians have genes from Thracians, Dacians and Illyrians (peoples who lived in antiquity in the Balkans).
•
POLAND
- 55% of today's Poles are have genes from the Thracians, Dacians and Illyrians (peoples who lived in antiquity in the Balkans).
•
LITHUANIA
- 40% of today's Lithuanians have genes from the Thracians, Dacians and Illyrians (peoples who lived in antiquity in the Balkans).
•
GREECE
- 35% of today's Greeks have genes from the Thracians, Dacians and Illyrians (peoples who lived in antiquity in the Balkans).
•
GERMANY
- 30% of today's Germans have genes from the Thracians, Dacians and Illyrians (peoples who lived in antiquity in the Balkans).
•
LATVIA
- 25% of today's Latvians have genes from the Thracians, Dacians and Illyrians (peoples who lived in antiquity in the Balkans).
•
ESTONIA
- 25% of today's Estonians have genes from Thracians, Dacians and Illyrians (peoples who lived in antiquity in the Balkans).
Similarities, kinship, filiation and affinity between peoples
Based
on
all
the
genetic
reports,
the
tables
with
the
percentage
of
haplogroups
present
in
European
populations
and
the
statistical
statements
compiled
by
geneticists
(which can be found by accessing the links below), it is found that - if we consider only the majority genetic fund in those countries above, it is concluded that -
ALL THE BALKAN PEOPLES ARE GENETICALLY RELATED RESPECTIVELY THE SO-CALLED CSANGOS ARE SIMILAR
TO ROMANIANS AND ARE GENETICALLY RELATED TO THE MAJORITY OF BULGARIANS, SERBIANS, CROATIANS,
SLOVENIANS, MONTENEGRENES, BOSNIACS, HUNGARIANS, AUSTRIANS, MACEDONIANS AND MOLDOVANS
All
these
peoples
are
related
through
their
common
ancestors:
Thracians,
Dacians
and
Illyrians
(the
Dacians
and
Illyrians
themselves
being
of
the
Thracian
tribe),
inhabitants
of
the
territories
in
the
Balkans,
but
to
these
genetic
matches
are
added
other
genetic
matches
from
the
genetic
contribution
transmitted
to
these
peoples
by
other
populations
with
which
they
came
into
contact
(Romans,
Greeks,
Ottomans,
Scythians,
Sarmatians,
etc.)
and
from
peoples
who
migrated
to
this
area,
some
of
them
settling
here
and
merging
with
the
locals
(example:
the
Celts
,
Goths,
Gepis,
etc.),
these
genetic
contributions
being
a
minority
in
the
genome
of
Hungarians,
Austrians,
Serbs, Bulgarians, Romanians, Croats, Slovenes, Montenegrins, Bosnians, Macedonians and Moldovans.
Results of DNA tests for ethnicity
carried out by Roman Catholics in Moldova, on their own initiative
As
a
result
of
their
interest
in
discovering
their
own
identity,
finding
out
their
origins
and
discovering
unknown
family
members
or
finding
out
about
distant
relatives, some of the Roman Catholics in Moldova took the DNA test on their own initiative.
Through
their
kindness,
I
came
into
possession
of
concrete
data
about
the
ethnic
origin
of
Roman
Catholics
who
found
their
own
ethnic
origins
using
sites
specializing in genetic research and genealogy.
Unfortunately,
the
result
of
these
tests
cannot
be
presented
on
our
site,
as
communicated
to
the
owners,
because
it
would
violate
the
terms
and
conditions
set
by
the
sites
specializing
in
genetic
testing,
according
to
which
people
requesting
the
DNA
test
are
required
comply
with
-
inter
alia
-
the
rule
that:
“
…
DNA
services
are
intended
solely for the personal, private and information use of holders and may not be used in connection with commercial or research efforts…
”.
We present some conclusions, resulting from these genetic analyzes:
From
the
content
of
the
genetic
analysis
reports
of
the
ethnicity,
it
results
that
the
holders
are
in
proportions
between
75%
and
95%
descendants
of
populations
that
lived
in
Europe
more
than
5000
years
ago,
in
the
genetic
profile
of
the
holders
the
highest
frequency
of
haplogurus
having
-a
genes
specific
to
populations
in
the
white
area
with
more
than
70%,
followed
by
the
population
in
northern
and
western
Europe,
with
percentages
around
45%
and
the
population
in
southern
Europe,
with
percentages
around 20% .
To
the
genetic
profile
of
the
holders,
the
main
contribution
has
the
population
that
developed
within
the
Cucuteni,
Coțofeni,
Baden
cultures
and
partly
in
areas
belonging
to
other
cultures
that
developed
in
the
Central
European
area,
in
the
Neolithic
era,
respectively
on
the
current
territory
of
the
countries.
Serbia,
Croatia,
Slovenia,
Bosnia,
Macedonia,
Albania,
Hungary,
Czech
Republic,
Slovakia,
Germany,
Austria,
Poland,
Italy
(northern
area),
Ukraine
(western
area),
Romania
(except
Dobrogea),
Bulgaria (except east), Greece (northern area).
These
results
confirm
the
theory
that
Roman
Catholics
in
Moldova
are
Romanians,
with
genetic
traits
specific
to
the
population
that
lived
in
the
area
where
today
is
Serbia,
Croatia,
etc.,
including
western
Romania,
Banat
and
Sarmizegetusa
Regia.
,
the
political-administrative
center
of
Dacia,
the
population
of
Romania
having
-
in
some
cases - over 90% genetic contribution from the Dacians, people who have lived here since the Neolithic.
The
genetic
profile
of
Roman
Catholics
also
contains
(to
a
lesser
extent)
specific
haplogroups
of
ancient
populations
that
lived
in
the
area
of
European
territory
on
which Spain, France, Italy, Germany, Switzerland, Ireland and Scotland currently live.
The
presence
of
specific
genes
of
Iberians,
Irish,
Scots,
Gauls
and
Germans,
is
justified
by
the
contact
of
the
population
of
Transylvania
with
the
Roman
Empire,
which included peoples from the Iberian Peninsula, France, Germany, etc ..
It
is
known
and
proven
historically
and
archaeologically
that
the
Celts
occupied
Transylvania
around
335
BC
and
ruled
this
territory
until
after
100
BC,
when
Burebista founded the Geto-Dacian state.
The
Celts
ruled
Transylvania
for
about
250
years,
with
archaeological
traces
at
Fântânele,
Oradea,
Ciumești,
Silivaș,
Apahida
(in
Romania),
contributing
to
the
genetic profile of Romanians in Transylvania, including the genetic profile of Roman Catholics in Moldova. , who are originally Transylvanian Romanians.
The
genetic
contribution
of
the
Germans
to
the
genome
of
the
Roman
Catholics
is
easy
to
understand,
because
on
the
current
territory
of
Romania,
after
250,
migrant
peoples
of
German
origin
passed
(Goths,
Ostrogoths
and
Gepis)
and
after
1100,
the
current
territory
of
Transylvania
was
colonized
by
populations
of
German
origin
- Saxons, Swabians, etc ..
There
were
crossings
between
the
native
population
and
the
population
of
German
origin
that
resulted
in
the
genetic
contribution
of
the
Germans
from
Transylvania,
in the genetic profile of the Roman Catholics from Moldavia.
The
genetic
contribution
-
insignificant
-
of
the
population
in
the
area
where
today
is
Syria,
Lebanon,
Israel,
Egypt,
is
justified
by
the
contact
of
this
population
with
the
cohorts
of
soldiers
of
the
Roman
Empire,
by
contacts
between
these
people,
which
could
result
descendants
who
were
later
enlisted
in
the
Roman
army
and
which
could
have
been
sent
in
the
campaign
of
conquest
in
Dacia,
or
by
the
presence
on
the
territory
of
Dacia
of
soldiers
from
Eastern
countries,
enlisted
by
force
in
the
army
of
the
Roman Empire.
The
genetic
profile
of
the
holders
contains
-
mostly
-
gene
groups
of
the
populations
that
developed
on
the
territory
of
Dacia,
so
it
can
be
concluded
that
the
so-called
csangos
are
descendants
of
the
Dacians
with
minority
genetic
contributions
from
the
populations
of
Western,
Eastern
and
Southern
Europe.
,
the
Roman
Catholics
from
Moldova not being the descendants of some tribes of Hungarians, Huns, Mongols, etc ..
The
genetic
structure
of
the
Roman
Catholics
who
performed
the
DNA
test
for
ethnicity,
is
largely
applied
to
the
relatives
of
the
holders,
in
direct
and
collateral
line,
ie
they
have
the
same
genetic
origin
and
their
known
relatives
(descendants
of
known
ancestors),
in
number
thousands
of
people,
Roman
Catholics
from
Iași,
Bacău,
Roman,
Pașcani,
Târgu
Frumos,
Săbăoani
(Neamț
County),
Gherăiești
(Neamț
County),
Hălăucești
(Iași
County),
Belcești
(Neamț
County),
Focuri
(Iași
County)
,
Fântânele
(Iași
county),
Mircești
(Iași
county),
Tupilați
(Neamț
county),
Negri
(Bacău
county),
Luizi
Călugăra
(Bacău
county),
Horgești
(Bacău
county),
Geoseni
(Bacău
county),
Cleja
(Bacău county) Nicolae Bălcescu (Bacău County).
Other
distant
relatives
of
the
owners
(descendants
of
great-great-grandparents
and
other
more
distant
ancestors)
-
tens
of
thousands
of
people,
Roman
Catholics
from Moldova, have the same genetic profile, as the genetic basis is the same, coming from common ancestors who have lived about 5,000 years ago.
It
was
found
that
only
one
Roman
Catholic
who
did
the
DNA
test
for
ethnicity
found
that
he
has
relatives
in
many
localities
in
Moldova,
namely:
Ploscuțeni
(Vrancea
County),
Faraoani,
Luizi
Călugăra,
Gioseni,
Horgești,
Tamași,
Cleja,
Negri,
Mărgineni
(from
Bacău
county),
Săbăoani,
Gherăiești,
Rotunda,
Tămășeni,
Buruienești,
Tețcani
(from Neamț county), Hălăucești, Focuri, Belcești, Oțeleni, Butea, Mircești, Bălțați (from Iași county).
The
results
of
these
DNA
tests
confirm
that
the
Roman
Catholics
in
Moldova
are
not
Hungarians,
they
are
the
descendants
of
European
populations
over
5000
years
old, from the time when the Huns, Mongols, Hungarians were in Central Asia.
It
also
confirms
the
result
of
other
genetic
studies
-
for
which
there
are
links
at
the
bottom
of
the
page
-
according
to
which
the
population
of
Transylvania
resembles
the
populations
of
Western
Europe,
more
than
the
population
of
Moldova
and
Muntenia
and
the
resemblance
of
Roman
Catholics
to
Western
European
populations
is
proof
that Roman Catholics are Transylvanian and migrated to Moldova after 1200, but especially in the seventeenth and nineteenth centuries.
If
we
refer
to
the
history
of
Romania,
based
on
the
scientific
results
offered
by
genetic
tests,
we
can
say
that
Roman
Catholics
in
Moldova
are
of
Dacian
origin
(with
a
genetic
contribution
between
50%
and
95%),
combined
with
Romans
(with
a
genetic
contribution
between
10%
and
30%),
combined
with
the
Celts
(with
a
genetic
contribution
between
5%
and
25%),
combined
with
the
Germans
(with
a
genetic
contribution
between
5
and
50%),
the
Moldovan
Roman
Catholics
having
no
genetic
contribution from Asian peoples (Huns, Mongols, Hungarians, etc.).
This is the scientific reality, current, concrete and indisputable.
The
result
of
genetic
tests
performed
by
Roman
Catholics
from
Moldova,
confirms
the
truth
resulting
from
historical,
anthropological,
linguistic
and
ethnographic
research,
according
to
which
the
so-called
"csangos"
are
Romanians,
they
have
the
popular
costumes,
customs,
traditions
and
language,
identical
to
to
all
Romanians,
the
only
difference
from
the
majority
of
the
population,
being
the
affiliation
to
the
Roman
Catholic church.
The Romanian origin of the "csangos" is confirmed
even by the Szekler priest Zöld Péter, the creator of the name “Csango-Hungarian” (“csango” - in Romanian)
Following
his
passage
through
Moldova,
the
Szekler
priest
Zöld
Péter
found
the
existence
of
the
population
of
Roman
Catholic
religion
in
this
area
of
Romania
and
about
these
people
he
noted
that
"
…their
clothing
is
Romanian,
cheap
and
is
made
by
their
wives…
"
and
that
they
are
bilingual
“
…
everyone
knows
and
speaks
Romanian
and
Hungarian…
”
(in
the
current,
ordinary
speech,
they
use
Romanian
and
Hungarian
words)
but
that
“
…
they
speak
bad
Hungarian
poorly…
” (in the language used there is a mixture of Romanian and Hungarian words) .
The
description
given
by
the
Szekler
priest
Zöld
Péter
to
those
whom
he
called
"csango-magyar",
is
important
because
it
confirms
that
Roman
Catholics
from
Moldavia dress in Romanian clothes, worked by them in their own households, know and speak Romanian better than I know and speak Hungarian.
This description of Roman Catholics allows conclusions to be drawn based on the following reasoning:
• TRADITIONAL POPULAR COSTUME
Roman
Catholics
from
Moldova
could
not
be
Hungarians
dressed
in
Romanian
clothes
.
Roman
Catholics
from
the
period
when
Zöld
Péter
visited
Moldavia,
as
well
as
their
descendants
to
this
day,
still
wear
the
clothing
they
are
accustomed
to,
a
popular
port
inherited
from
the
ancestors
and
used
traditionally,
by
over
the
centuries,
being
known
that
-
throughout
the
world
-
the
traditional
popular
port
is
preserved
by
peoples,
nations,
ethnicities,
groups
of
people,
etc.
this
being
considered
a
duty,
an
honor
and
a
pride
of
the
members
of
a
community
and
-
at
the
same
time
-
it
is
the
proof
of
the
belonging
of
the
people
to
a
certain
community.
In
the
case
of
the
“csangos”,
the Romanian popular port, the traditional Romanian clothing worn by Roman Catholics in Moldavia, is the proof of their belonging to the Romanian nation.
• THE TRADITIONAL WORKMANSHIP OF THE TISSUE
From
the
description
made
to
the
Moldavian
Roman
Catholics
by
the
priest
Zöld
Péter,
it
turns
out
that
the
costumes
are
"Romanian"
and
"cheap"
clothing,
worn
by
them,
"is
worked
by
their
wives"
in
their
own
households,
which
means
that
the
Roman-Catholic
wives
knew
the
technique
of
weaving
the
cloths
necessary
for
the
realization
of
the
articles
of
clothing
and
they
dealt
with
this
task
spread
throughout
the
territory
of
Romania,
practiced
within
the
peasant
households
of
Romanians
of
Orthodox
religion
and
Romanians
of
Roman
Catholic
religion.
The
tissue
craft
resulting
in
Romanian
clothing
is
certainly
a
traditional
Romanian
task
and
is
the
proof
that
Roman
Catholics
who
practiced
this
craft
are
Romanians,
as
it
is
impossible
for
Roman
Catholics
in
Moldavia
to
be
Hungarian
and
to
be
assimilated
by
Romanians
in
the
process
of
the
alleged
assimilation
they
were
forced
to
acquire
the
traditional
Romanian
weaving
technique,
resulting
in
Romanian
clothing
items.
This
argument
leads
to
the conclusion that Roman Catholics from Moldavia are excluded to be Hungarians.
• THE TRANSYLVANIAN ROMANIAN SPEECH
The
Transylvanian
language
of
Roman
Catholics
is
another
proof
that
they
are
Romanians,
as
they
are
not
Hungarians
assimilated
to
Moldavia.
In
such
an
event,
the
so-called
"csango"
would
not
speak
Romanian
at
all
or
they
would
have
spoken
-
at
most
-
imperfect
Moldavian
wheat
(due
to
an
alleged
assimilation
in
Moldova)
and
would not have used a Transylvanian language, with a complete and well-learned vocabulary.
We
mention
that
Zöld
Péter,
the
creator
of
the
name
"csango"
did
not
make
any
arguments
that
the
"csangos"
would
be
Hungarians,
he
only
described
Roman
Catholics
in
Moldavia
and
because
they
were
a
category
of
people
who
spoke
Romanian
and
Hungarian,
Zöld
Péter
took
named:
csango-magyar,
respectively
mongreled
Hungarians (linguistically) - those who speak a Hungarian language (
he could call it csango-román, because Roman Catholics spoke and Romanian! ???
).
Subsequently - for propaganda purposes - it was claimed that the "csangos" would be Hungarians, without even giving arguments.
Roman Catholics in Moldova and the current European reality
Council of Europe about the Roman Catholics from Moldavia
The
Romanian
identity
of
Moldovan
Catholics
is
recognized
by
the
Council
of
Europe
in
the
report
on
respect
for
the
rights
of
ethnic
and
religious
minorities
in
Romania,
where
(following
checks
by
European
institutions),
it
is
found
that
the
situation
of
the
"csangos"
can
be
understood
only
by
considering
concrete
results
from
the
territory,
this
document
referring
to
the
2002
census
on
the
territory
of
Bacău
county
where
most
Catholics
live
-
called
"csangos"
by
Hungarian
literature
-
on
which
occasion only 1769 people declared themselves "csangos", while in Bacau County they are 119,618 believers of Roman Catholic religion.
This
document
recognizes
the
existence
of
Romanians
of
Roman
Catholic
religion,
respect
for
their
rights,
their
coexistence
with
Romanian
citizens
of
other
religions
and also recognizes the truth, namely that citizens of Roman Catholic religion are Romanians, not "csangos" or "Hungarians-csangos".
Confirmation of the Romanian origin of the Roman Catholics
as recorded by Professor Dumitru Mărtinaș, in his book - "The origin of the csangos from Moldova"
• Dimitrie Cantemir noted about the Catholics of his time, that they declare themselves Catholics by nation and by religion.
•
In
the
Ad-hoc
Divan
of
Moldova,
Mihail
Kogălniceanu
defended
the
rights
of
Moldovan
Roman
Catholics
by
rejecting
a
bill
that
would
have
left
Moldovan
Catholics
without rights.
•
Costache
Negri
supported
the
rights
of
Moldovan
Catholics
by
stating
that
they
““
together
with
us,
for
centuries,
in
all
our
days
of
pain
and
bitterness
have
drawn
and suffered both all the sufferings with which God willing to rebuke us, to bring us to the wisdom and justice we need today… ”.
•
The
linguist
Sever
Pop
(1901-1961),
author
of
the
Romanian
Linguistic
Atlas,
noted
“The
women's
costume,
from
the
region,
has
nothing
Hungarian;
on
the
contrary, it offers all the characteristics of the costumes from the mountainous region of Moldova ”.
•
In
1887,
Ballagi
Aladár,
the
president
of
the
Hungarian
Geographical
Society,
visited
the
village
of
Cleja
in
Bacău
County,
on
which
occasion
he
could
not
hide
his
surprise by saying about the villagers that “they seem to be Wallachians. Not only their dress but also their physiognomy bears the Wallachian imprint… ”.
•
In
1787,
Count
d’Hauterive,
secretary
to
Prince
Alexandru
Mavrocordat,
mentioned
in
a
memorandum
that
the
csangos
of
Moldavia
are
passionate
dancers
and
skilled performers of Romanian dances.
•
Speaking
about
the
Roman
Catholics
from
Moldova,
the
historian
Nicolae
Iorga
admiringly
expressed
his
surprise
at
the
Romanian
clothing
of
the
csangos
described
by
him
“…
with
beautiful
towering
ports…”,
whose
women
wrap
their
heads
“…
in
big
white
brocades,
in
all
of
them
are
their
size
and
the
way
they
are
caught,
with
those
of
the
girls
and
wives
of
the
Făgăraș
mountain…
”,
the
great
historian
concluding
that
the
csangos“…
are
not
nearly
as
foreign
as
one
might
suspect…
”.
Roman
Catholics in Moldova about themselves
•
In
the
work
Description
of
Moldova,
Dimitrie
Cantemir
-
mentioning
the
existence
of
Catholics
in
this
territory
-
notes
that
they
avoided
saying
that
they
were
Hungarians and talking about them, they called themselves Catholics.
•
The
geographer
Victor
Tufescu
(the
founder
of
modern
geography
in
Romania)
noted
that
"…
almost
everywhere,
in
the
csango
villages
no
Hungarian
word
is
heard
and the so-called csango there are considered insulted if they are called Hungarians and not Romanians…".
•
The
Hungarian
writer
Ignácz
Rózsa
(1909-1979)
who
traveled
through
Moldova
notes
the
total
absence
of
Hungarian
consciousness
and
the
vigorous
resurgence
of
Romanian patriotism among the inhabitants of Luizi Călugăra, Bacău County.
Extract from the book “The origin of the csangos from Moldova” - author Dumitru Mărtinaș
Scientific studies and arguments
regarding the ethnic origin of the so-called "csangos" from Moldavia
• Study of anthroponymy in the Roman Catholic population
(for details, read the document …
here >>>
).
• The ethnogenesis of the Roman Catholic population
(for details, read the document …
here >>>
).
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SCIENTIFIC REPORT
1
.
The csangos are different from the people of Budapest
SCIENTIFIC REPORT
2
.
The csangos and Hungarians have a European genetic background but are different
Annex to the SCIENTIFIC REPORT
3
.
Frequency of haplogroups in Hungarians and csangos - comparative graph
SCIENTIFIC REPORT
4
.
The csangos are different from the Hungarians and the Szeklers
SCIENTIFIC REPORT
5
.
Genetically, there are major differences between csangos and Szeklers
SCIENTIFIC REPORT
6
.
Szeklers are different from the csangos
SCIENTIFIC REPORT
7
.
The genetic structure of the population in the Romanian historical regions
SCIENTIFIC REPORT
8
.
The population of Transylvania is similar to the western populations
SCIENTIFIC REPORT
9
.
Comparative genetic tests: Romanians, Albanians, Aromanians and Greeks
STATISTICAL STUDY
1
0
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Ethnicities around the world - Europe - the ethnic structure of each country
STATISTICAL STUDY
1
1
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The spread of ethnicities worldwide - Europe
SCIENTIFIC REPORT
1
2
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Genome of Peştera Muierii skull - Romania
SCIENTIFIC REPORT
1
3
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The population of Transylvania resembles the Serbs, Croats and Hungarians
Documentation based on SCIENTIFIC REPORT
1
4
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Distribution maps of Y-chromosomal haplogroups in Europe
Documentation based on SCIENTIFIC REPORT
1
5
.
Distribution maps of mitochondrial haplogroups in Europe
Documentation based on SCIENTIFIC REPORTS
1
6
.
Distribution of European countries Y-chromosome
Documentation based on SCIENTIFIC REPORTS
1
7
.
Distribution of European countries mitochondrial DNA
SCIENTIFIC REPORT
1
8
.
Less than 3% of Hungarians are descendants of conquerors
SCIENTIFIC REPORT
1
9
.
Only 5% of Hungarians are of Asian descent
Documentation based on SCIENTIFIC REPORT
2
0
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The population of Hungary has European origin
Documentation based on SCIENTIFIC REPORT
2
1
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Most Hungarians have no Asian descent
Documentation based on SCIENTIFIC REPORT
2
2
.
Hungarians do not come from the steppes of Asia - most are European
SCIENTIFIC REPORT
2
3
.
Hungarians have less than 5% common genes with populations in the Urals
SCIENTIFIC REPORT
2
4
.
Large Hungarian haplogroups are predominant in Europe
SCIENTIFIC REPORT
2
5
.
Hungarians are different from Szeklers - genetic analysis
Documentation based on SCIENTIFIC REPORT
2
6
.
Hungarian genetic markers are 84% of European origin
SCIENTIFIC REPORT
2
7
.
Hungarians have 13% common genes with Czechs and Slovaks
SCIENTIFIC REPORT
2
8
.
Hungarians have common genes with Basques, Poles, Slovenes and Slovaks
SCIENTIFIC REPORT
2
9
.
Hungarians resemble European populations
SCIENTIFIC REPORT
3
0
.
Human genetics in India - affinities with the Hungarian population
SCIENTIFIC REPORT
3
1
.
Roma people represent 8% of the Hungarian population
SCIENTIFIC REPORT
3
2
.
Genetic frequency of Roma in Hungary and other European countries
SCIENTIFIC REPORT
3
3
.
Origins, mixtures and ancestral lines in European Roma
Annex to the SCIENTIFIC REPORT
3
4
.
Graph with the genetic frequency of Roma
SCIENTIFIC REPORT
3
5
.
The Roma in Hungary
SCIENTIFIC REPORT
3
6
.
Study on the genome of Hungarian conquerors
SCIENTIFIC REPORT
3
7
.
Genetic diversity of Hungarians
SCIENTIFIC REPORT
3
8
.
The differences between the modern Hungarian population and the conquerors
SCIENTIFIC REPORT
3
9
.
Hungarians are different from conquerors
SCIENTIFIC REPORT
4
0
.
Haplogroup N (widespread in Asia)
SCIENTIFIC REPORT
4
1
.
Haplogroup N is found in Hungarians in a frequency below 4%
SCIENTIFIC REPORT
4
2
.
Arpadian Dynasty - DNA tests
SCIENTIFIC REPORT
4
3
.
DNA profile of the Hungarian king Béla III and other Hungarian kings
SCIENTIFIC REPORT
4
4
.
Human genetics in Europe - the old Hungarian population
SCIENTIFIC REPORT
4
5
.
Chromosomal polymorphism in the Hungarian population
Documentation based on SCIENTIFIC REPORT
4
6
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The ethnic structure of the Hungarians in Romania
SCIENTIFIC REPORT
4
7
.
Hungarians do not have genes specific to Finno-Ugric speakers
SCIENTIFIC REPORT
4
8
.
Ordinary Hungarians - from the Middle Ages - are genetically different from leaders
SCIENTIFIC REPORT
4
9
.
Hungarians are genetically different from Turks and resemble Indians
SCIENTIFIC REPORT
5
0
.
Hungarians do not have genes specific to the peoples of the Urals
SCIENTIFIC REPORT
5
1
.
MtDNA and Y chromosome polymorphisms in Hungary
SCIENTIFIC REPORT
5
2
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The Serbs are the descendants of the Thracians
SCIENTIFIC REPORT
5
3
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Chromosomal diversity in Europe
Documentation based on SCIENTIFIC REPORT
5
4
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84% of Hungarians are of European origin
Documentation based on SCIENTIFIC REPORT
5
5
.
Map of the distribution of haplogroups to European populations
Documentation based on SCIENTIFIC REPORT
5
6
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Genetic map of Europe - from multiple perspectives
Documentation based on SCIENTIFIC REPORT
5
7
.
Origins, spread and ethnic association of European haplogroups
Documentation based on SCIENTIFIC REPORTS
5
8
.
Genetic maps of Europe
Documentation based on SCIENTIFIC REPORTS
5
9
.
Notions and classification about haplogroups
Documentation based on SCIENTIFIC REPORTS
6
0
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Phylogenetic tree of the Y chromosomal haplogroup
Documentation based on SCIENTIFIC REPORTS
6
1
.
Genetic structure of European countries, based on haplogroups
Documentation based on SCIENTIFIC REPORT
6
2
.
The genetic structure of Romanians
SCIENTIFIC REPORT
6
3
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Distribution of haplogroups to the Balkan peoples
SCIENTIFIC REPORT
6
4
.
Bulgarians have Balkan genetic origins
Documentation based on SCIENTIFIC REPORT
6
5
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DNA tests establish the origin of Roman Catholics in Moldova
(in Romanian)
SCIENTIFIC REPORT
6
6
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The genetic structure of the Balkan peoples
SCIENTIFIC REPORT
6
7
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Genetic related between the Balkan peoples
SCIENTIFIC REPORT
6
8
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Bulgarians are descendants of the Thracians
SCIENTIFIC REPORT
6
9
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Croats are descendants of Illyrians, a population 25,000 years old
SCIENTIFIC REPORT
7
0
.
Croats are not carriers of haplogroup N (specific to Asian populations)
SCIENTIFIC REPORT
7
1
.
Serbs are similar to European populations
SCIENTIFIC REPORT
7
2
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Serbs are descended from populations over 12,000 years old
SCIENTIFIC REPORT
7
3
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The Czech population is of European origin (only 3% of Czechs have Asian genes)
SCIENTIFIC REPORT
7
4
.
Serbs are in the Balkan area since Neolithic (over 12,000 years old)
SCIENTIFIC REPORT
7
5
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Online GIS maps of ancient Y-DNA, mtDNA and ADMIXTURE
SCIENTIFIC REPORT
7
6
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The Scythians spread from Eastern Europe to western Asia and not vice versa
SCIENTIFIC REPORT
7
7
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Scythians in Ukraine are genetically different from Scythians in Asia
Documentation based on SCIENTIFIC REPORT
7
8
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The Hungarians are not part of the phylogenetic tree of the Finno-Ugric peoples
SCIENTIFIC REPORT
7
9
.
The Hungarian population is multiethnic
SCIENTIFIC REPORT
8
0
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The Hungarians conquered their homeland, in alliance with the Caucasians and Slavs
SCIENTIFIC REPORT
8
1
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The current territory of Hungary was heavily populated 5,000 years ago
SCIENTIFIC REPORT
8
2
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Geographical atlas of the world regarding the ancient period - PREHISTORY
SCIENTIFIC REPORT
8
3
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The ancient population of Dobrogea had a diverse ethnic origin
SCIENTIFIC REPORT
8
4
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Distribution of haplogroups to Hungarians and the Roma minority
SCIENTIFIC REPORT
8
5
.
The genetic structure of the Hungarian conquerors
Documentation based on SCIENTIFIC REPORT
8
6
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After the collapse of Attila's empire, the Huns migrated to Asia
SCIENTIFIC REPORT
8
7
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Today's Europeans come from populations that are 8,000 years old
SCIENTIFIC REPORT
8
8
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The first European farmers came from the Near East
SCIENTIFIC REPORT
8
9
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Genetic Structure of Europeans
STATISTICAL STUDY
9
0
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The population of Jewish origin in Hungary
SCIENTIFIC REPORT
9
1
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Croats are the descendants of a population over 5,000 years old
SCIENTIFIC REPORT
9
2
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The current population of Poland is of Scythian origin
SCIENTIFIC REPORT
9
3
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Mitochondrial DNA variability of the Polish population
SCIENTIFIC REPORT
9
4
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The population of Moldova is a mixture of Dacians and Scythians
SCIENTIFIC REPORT
9
5
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European Gene Mapping Project (EUROGEM)
SCIENTIFIC REPORT
9
6
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Genetic maps of Europe - prehistory, antiquity, the Middle Ages
SCIENTIFIC REPORT
9
7
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The populations of European countries are genetically similar
Documentation based on SCIENTIFIC REPORT
9
8
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The genetic history of the British population
SCIENTIFIC REPORT
9
9
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Haplogroup H (mitochondrial DNA) is the most widespread in Europe
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Dominant haplogroups in Europe (Y chromosome)
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Maps with haplogroup distribution in Europe
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Y DNA and mtDNA haplogroup world maps
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Haplogroups of historical, scientific, cultural figures
The genetic origin of other European peoples
GENETICS, reveals the truth about Roman Catholics called "csangos"
The Roman Catholics from Moldova (csangos) who currently live on this territory are undoubtedly incompletely Magyarized Romanians.
Most of them are not even a little Hungarian.
Most Moldovan Roman Catholics speak only Romanian.
They were never Magyarized - neither they nor their ancestors.
The popular dress of the Roman Catholics, the folklore, their folk dances, are all Romanian.
The traditions of the Roman Catholics and the popular architecture are Romanian.
Along
with
arguments
based
on
various
branches
of
science:
history,
ethnology,
ethnography,
linguistics,
in
recent
years
modern
science
can
also
provide
arguments
based on biological sciences and especially those provided by genetics, respectively that branch of biology that studies the laws of heredity and variability of organisms.
DNA tests are the best proof of a person's belonging to an ethnic group.
For this reason, the result of DNA tests performed on populations in all countries, including Romania and Hungary, is the best way to determine a person's ethnicity.
The
Human
Genome
Project
,
developed
after
1990,
is
an
international
genetic
research
project,
developed
with
the
main
goal
of
deciphering
the
genetic
code
and
identifying
the
genes
responsible
for
genetic
diseases,
how
these
genes
trigger
the
disease.
The
main
purpose
of
the
project
is
to
prevent
the
occurrence
of
genetic
diseases and to cure these diseases.
Simultaneously
with
the
main
purpose
of
preventing
genetic
diseases,
once
deciphered
the
genetic
code,
can
contribute
to
understanding
the
history
of
mankind
and
the
evolution
of
the
human
species
but
can
also
contribute
to
establishing
kinship
between
parents
and
children,
implicitly
establishing
the
descendants
of
groups
of
people,
communities.
,
peoples,
so
as
to
highlight
the
genetic
characteristics
of
a
people,
the
historical
evolution
and
genetic
diversity
of
the
members
of
a
people
or
on
the
contrary
the isolation and uniqueness, the typicality of a people.
Scientific
organizations
dealing
with
the
study
of
the
human
genome
have
conducted
genetic
tests
on
people
from
different
communities,
from
territories
on
all
continents, including Romania and Hungary.
Apart
from
this
large-scale
project,
scientific
organizations,
universities
around
the
world,
including
universities
in
Hungary,
have
carried
out
small-scale
projects
aimed at deciphering the genetic code for certain groups of people.
Identification
and
classification
of
gene
groups
(haplogroups),
through
the
project
Human
Genome
but
also
other
smaller
projects
with
customized
objectives
(precise
goals
and
objectives,
regarding
groups
of
people),
allowed
the
highlighting
of
genetic
characteristics
for
large
groups
of
populations,
from
clearly
delimited
geographical areas (peoples, nations, continents).
In
this
way,
haplogroups
specific
to
European
populations,
Asian
populations,
African
populations,
etc.
were
identified.
and
on
this
occasion
it
was
established
to
which population an individual belongs, what is the genealogy of the peoples, who are their ancestors and how different ethnic groups have evolved.
The
development
of
genetics
and
the
important
results
obtained
in
the
project
of
deciphering
the
human
genetic
code,
allowed
the
identification
of
the
genetic
characteristics of the csangos.
DNA
tests
performed
on
the
Romanian
population,
of
the
Hungarians
but
also
of
the
csangos,
provided
results
that
lead
to
the
conclusion
that
the csangos are Romanians.
The same DNA tests concluded that 95% of Hungarians are descendants of European populations and only 5% are of Asian descent.
The result of the DNA tests can be see on top of this page.
The
list
of
sites
showing
results
of
DNA
tests,
carried
out
by
scientific
organizations
specializing
in
genetic
research,
including
by
the
scientists
from
Hungary,
can
be
accessed…
here >>>
.
Those interested in verifying the correctness of the data presented above, can access
the sites specialized in genetic research and documentation, for which there are links
in the final part of this page.
C O N T A C T S
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The
so-called
“CSANGOS”
are
similar
to
the
Romanians,
respectively,
a
mixture
of
ethnic
groups,
coming
from
the
historical
past
of
Europe,
most
Romanians
(including
“csangos”)
being
descendants
of
Dacians,
who
transmitted
to
Romanians
(including
“csangos”)
the
main
genetic
fund
(to
approximately
90
%
of
them),
to
which
was
added
the
genetic
contribution
of
other
populations:
Celts,
Goths,
Gepis,
Romans,
Greeks,
Scythians,
Sarmatians,
Jews,
etc.;
genetic
testing
accurately
states
that
Romanians
(including
“csangos”)
have
most
genes
in
common
with
Serbs,
Croats,
Bulgarians,
Slovenes,
Montenegrins,
Bosniaks,
Macedonians,
Austrians
and
Moldovans,
the
main
genetic
background
of
all
these
peoples
being
a
common
one,
derived
from
Thracians,
Dacians
and
Illyrians
(the
Dacians
and
Illyrians
being
themselves
of
the
Thracian tribe).
Genetic
studies
show
that
the
so-called
“csangos”
are
Romanians,
they
-
the
“csangos”
-
being
part
of
the
Romanian
people,
with
the
same
genetic
characteristics
as
most
Romanians
and
having
the
same
popular
culture,
the
same
traditions,
the
same
customs, identical folk costumes and and identical language.
HUNGARIANS
are
a
mixture
of
ethnic
groups,
coming
from
the
historical
past
of
Europe
and
Asia,
most
Hungarians
being
descendants
of
ancient
populations:
Thracians
and
Dacians,
who
transmitted
to
Hungarians
the
main
genetic
background
(about
85%
of
Hungarians),
to
which
was
added
the
genetic
contribution
of
other
populations
(Celts,
Goths,
Gepis,
Romans,
Greeks,
Scythians,
Sarmatians,
Jews,
etc.;
genetic
tests
accurately
establishing
that
Hungarians
have
common
genes
with
Serbs,
Croats,
Romanians,
Bulgarians,
Slovenes,
Montenegrins,
Bosnians,
Macedonians,
Austrians
and
Moldovans,
the
main
genetic
background
of
all
these
peoples
being
a
common
one,
from
Thracians,
Dacians
and
Illyrians
(the
Dacians
and
Illyrians
being
themselves
from
the
Thracian
people),
the
Hungarians
being
genetically
related
to
the
Czechs,
Slovaks,
Poles,
Ukrainians,
Danes, Dutch, Germans, Basques.
The
same
genetic
studies
have
established
that
3%
of
Hungarians
have
genes
from
the
conquering
Hungarian
tribes
and
2%
of
Hungarians
have
genes
from
other
populations
in
Asia,
the
Caucasus, the Urals.
These
conclusions
result
from
studies
and
scientific
reports
presented
on
sites
specializing
in
genetic
research,
for
which
there
are
links
at
the
end
of
this
page,
the
arguments
being
clear
and
indisputable,
namely
the
genetic
similarities
between
Romanians,
csangos,
Hungarians
and
Balkan
peoples,
identity
and
frequency
of
haplogroups. found in the Hungarian population and in the so-called “csangos”, compared to the haplogroups found in Romanians and other European peoples.
Analysis
of
mitochondrial
DNA
samples
(inherited
from
the
maternal
line),
Y-DNA
(analysis
of
the
Y
chromosome
-
inherited
from
the
paternal
line),
as
well
as
analysis
of
the
twenty-two
pairs
of
autosomal
chromosomes
from
samples
taken
from
the
Hungarian
population,
concluded
that
only
5%
of
Hungarians
are
of
Asian
descent
but
less
than
3%
of
Hungarians
have
genes
from
conquering
tribes
and
most
Hungarians
are descendants of European populations.
If
we
apply
these
percentages
to
the
size
of
the
Hungarian
population,
which
-
according
to
official
data
-
is
less
than
10
million
inhabitants,
we
can
see
that
less
than
300,000
Hungarians
have
genes
from
the
conquering
Hungarian
tribes,
about
200,000
Hungarians
have
genes
from
other
Asian
populations,
and
the
majority
of
9,500,000
Hungarians
are
descendants
of
European
populations
that
have
lived
in
Europe
for
over
10,000
years.
These
demographic
data,
related
to
the
results
of
DNA
tests,
show
that
…
THE
HUNGARIAN
ETHNICITY
DOES
NOT
EXIST,
different
from
that of the Balkan peoples.
Pleading for respect, peace and harmony
The
results
of
genetic
research
done
under
the
European
Gene
Mapping
Project
(EUROGEM)
and
all
genetic
research
projects
involving
citizens
of
European
countries
as
research
subjects,
as
well
as
research
on
the
human
remains,
discovered
on
the
occasion
of
the
Archaeological
research
in
the
mainland
has
concluded
that
the
current
inhabitants
of
Europe
are
a
mixture
of
the
peoples
who
lived
on
the
continent
of
Europe
over
10,000
years
ago
and
that
in
the
period
of
time
that
has
passed
until
now
there
has
been
a
genetic
mixture
between
these
populations,
the
most
mixed
peoples
being
in
Austria,
the
Czech
Republic,
Hungary
and
Slovakia
(
see here
).
The
existence
of
genetic
links
between
the
citizens
of
all
European
countries
shows
that
all
Europeans
are
related
to
each
other,
coming
from
the
same
ancestors,
this
being
an
additional
reason
for
Europeans
to
show sympathy, affection, solidarity and respect for each other, as well as for all the people of the earth.
DNA testing, scientific studies, recognitions, attitudes,
which CONFIRMS the Romanian origin of the Moldavian Roman Catholics
and their belonging to the Romanian cultural space.
Genetic analysis, DNA testing, referring to ethnic origin
and the genetic structure of the so-called "csangos" from Moldavia.
The genetic origin of the Hungarian population
and other populations in Europe and the Balkans.
The
Human
Genome
Project
(
HGP
),
conducted
between
1990
and
2003
as
a
one
international,
collaborative
research
program
whose
goal
was
the
complete
mapping
and
understanding
of
all
the
genes
of
human
beings
(human
genome);
The
European
Gene
Population
Mapping
Project
(
EUROGEM
)
was
conceived
in
1988
by
the
EC
Working
Group
on
Human
Genome
Analysis
with
the
objective
to
produce
a
human
gene
map;
and
as
well
many
other
genetic
research
projects,
carried
out
by
universities,
medical
and
scientific
institutions
in
Europe
and
other
continents,
analyzed
the
human
genome,
identified
genetic
markers
and
classified
gene
groups,
from
the
centralization
of
all
data
shows
that
the
population
of
European
countries
has
a
homogeneous
genetic
structure,
the
genome
of
every
European
citizen
(all
genes
of
a
person) is made up of a mixture of haplogroups (gene groups) specific to the European continent, with some influences from North Africa and Southwest Asia.
A. Y-chromosome haplogroups
(and their subclades, branches) most commonly found in the population of European countries
1. Haplogroup R1a - the most widespread in Eastern Europe.
2. Haplogroup R1b - the most widespread in Western Europe.
3. Haplogroup I1 - with the largest spread in Northern Europe.
4. Haplogroup I2 - with the largest spread in the Balkans.
5. Haplogroup E - with the largest spread in Southern Europe.
6. Haplogroup J - with the largest spread in Southeast Europe.
B. Mitochondrial DNA haplogroups
(and their subclades, branches) most commonly found in the population of European countries
1. Haplogroup H - spread all over the continent of Europe.
2. Haplogroup J - spread all over the continent of Europe.
3. Haplogroup K - with the largest spread in Western Europe.
4. Haplogroup T - with the largest spread in the Balkans.
5. Haplogroup U - spread all over Europe.
The
DNA
tests
carried
out
during
these
projects
concluded
that
the
population
of
the
continent
of
Europe
is
a
genetic
mixture
of
the
populations
that
lived
on
the
continent
over
10,000
years
ago
and
the
most
homogeneous
populations
(the
genetic
mixture
is
more
pronounced)
are
in
the
area
central
part
of
the
continent
(Austria,
Czech Republic, Hungary, Slovakia).
The
same
genetic
tests
concluded
that
the
population
of
Finland
has
a
particular
situation,
as
it
carries
the
haplogroup
N
(DNA
Y
chromosome),
which
is
not
found
significantly
in
other
European
populations,
the
population
of
Finland
showing
a
mixture
of
all
other
common
haplogroups
in
the
population
from
other
European
countries.
In
connection
with
the
Romanian
population,
genetic
studies
were
carried
out
on
the
origin
of
the
Romanian
people,
the
existence
of
similarities
and
differences
between the Romanian population in each historical province and the existence of genetic links with populations from other European countries.
See similarities between the population of Romania in each historical province and the population in other European countries.
From
the
scientific
reports
prepared
on
the
occasion
of
genetic
studies,
regarding
the
genetic
origin
of
the
Romanian
population
and
from
the
statistical
data
presented
by
sites
specialized
in
genetic
research
and
genealogy,
which
can
be
viewed
by
accessing
the
links
presented
in
the
final
part
of
this
page,
it
results
that
the
population
of
Romania
is
descended
from
the
population
that
lived
in
the
Balkan
area,
since
the
Neolithic,
the
Romanians
of
today
being
the
result
of
a
genetic
mixture
with
other populations that migrated in this area.
See genetic similarities between Aromanians, Romanians and Greeks
DNA
tests
to
finding
out
the
ethnic
origin
of
the
so-called
"csangos"
have
established
that
genetically
(as
well
as
traditional
culture),
Moldovan
Roman
Catholics
(so-
called "csangos") are Romanians and are different from Hungarians.
From
the
comparison
of
the
frequency
of
haplogroups
present
in
the
Hungarian
population
with
the
frequency
of
haplogroups
present
in
the
so-called
“csangos”,
Romanians
and
other
European
populations,
it
results
that
Roman
Catholics
in
Moldova
(so-called
“csangos”)
they
have
the
haplogroups:
R1a,
R1b,
I1,
I2,
E,
J,
(on
the
Y
chromosome)
and
they
have
haplogroups:
H1,
H3,
H5,
HV,
J,
K,
T1,
T2,
U
(on
mitochondrial
DNA),
being
specific
to
European
populations
and
are
found
in
all
European
populations,
including
Roman
Catholics
in
Moldova
(so-called
"csangos"),
Romanians
and
Hungarians.
The
high
frequency
of
these
haplogroups
is
proof
that
both
Roman
Catholics in Moldova (“csangos”) and Romanians and Hungarians are the descendants of European populations that lived in this area over 10,000 years ago.
The
low
frequency
of
haplogroup
M
in
Moldovan
Roman
Catholics
(“csangos”)
-
less
than
1%
-
and
in
the
Hungarian
population
-
about
2.5%
-
shows
that
both
are
not of Asian origin
.
Haplogroup
N,
which
is
specific
to
Asia
and
Australia,
is
found
with
a
low
frequency
among
Moldovan
Roman
Catholics
(“csangos”)
-
less
than
1%
and
only
2.5%
among the Hungarian population.
Haplogroups
M
and
N
(specific
to
Asian
populations)
are
also
found
in
other
European
populations,
in
small
proportions,
insignificant
and
their
presence
is
justified
by
the
contact
of
Europeans
with
populations
of
Asian
origin,
either
by
insignificant
migration
or
by
existing
contacts
between
Asians
and
European
populations
on
the
occasion of the invasion of Asian peoples (Mongols, Turks, Tatars, etc.).
It
is
estimated
that
0.5%
of
Europeans
are
descendants
of
the
Mongols,
following
their
passage
through
Europe
on
the
occasion
of
the
great
Mongol
invasion
of
the
thirteenth century.
Among
the
European
peoples,
the
Finns
are
an
exception,
in
which
haplogroup
N
is
present
in
a
proportion
of
95%,
which
proves
that
they
are
of
Asian
origin
(
see
here
).
See
genetic
differences
between
Hungarians
and
Finns
(frequency
of
haplogroup
N3)
and
the
similarity
of
the
Hungarians
to
the
neighboring
peoples.
(On
the
chart
shows
that
the
current
population
in
Hungary
has
the
same
genetic
structure
as
Romanians,
Serbs,
Croats,
Czechs,
Slovaks
and other peoples in the Balkans.
The charts, which express the frequency of haplogroups, have the same colors in similar proportions
).
Genetic
tests
on
Romanians,
Hungarians,
other
European
populations
and
the
so-called
"csangos",
were
made
by
prestigious
scientific
institutions
in
Europe,
the
USA and even by groups of researchers from the University of Budapest.
Even
scientists
in
Hungary
have
found
that
there
are
important
genetic
differences
between
“csangos”
and
Hungarians,
“csangos”
and
Szeklers,
the
differences
being
motivated by the geographical isolation of the “csangos”.
This
argument
of
the
geographical
isolation
of
the
"csangos"
from
the
Hungarians
and
the
Szeklers,
for
a
period
of
300
years,
500
years
or
800
years,
does
not
justify
the
genetic
differences
between
the
"csangos"
and
the
Hungarians
or
"csangos"
and
the
Szeklers
because
the
analyzed
haplogroups
(gene
groups)
highlighted
and
taken
into
account
in
the
final
result,
constitute
a
very
old
genetic
background,
respectively
genes
with
an
age
of
20,000
years
or
even
with
an
age
of
50,000
years,
so
that
a
geographical isolation of the "csangos" for a period not exceeding 1,000 years, does not influence the result of the analysis.
From
the
scientific
reports
prepared
by
geneticists,
it
results
that
the
"csangos"
are
different
from
the
Hungarians
and
this
was
established
by
highlighting
groups
of
genes (haplotypes) older than 1000 years.
See the comparative graph between Hungarians and csangos.
Different
genetic
tests
-
the
results
of
which
are
similar,
with
some
small
differences
(within
the
limits
of
acceptable
error,
arising
from
the
research
method
used
and
the
structure
of
the
population
analyzed),
established
that
the
population
of
Hungary
today
is
of
European
origin
and
the
Hungarians
are
not
genetically
related
to
the
conquering
Hungarian,
Hun,
Turkish
or
Finno-Ugric-speaking
tribes
(Finns,
Estonians),
not
to
the
Caucasian
or
Iranian
populations,
but
that
the
Hungarians
are
descendants
of
the
European
population
that
existed
in
Pannonia
and
The
Carpathian
Basin
before
the
arrival
of
the
migrating
tribes,
the
Hungarians
being
thus
related
to
the neighboring peoples, especially with the peoples of the Balkan region.
See the genetic resemblance of the Hungarians to the Slavs and the differentiation from the Finns.
The
analysis
of
the
Hungarian
genomes,
carried
out
to
establish
the
genetic
composition
of
modern
Hungarians
showed
that
there
was
a
mixture
between
Hungarian
speakers and neighboring populations, as well as a mixture with migrant populations.
See the genetic similarity of the Hungarians with the Romanians and the differentiation from the Finns.
The
obtained
results
show
that
most
of
the
haplogroups
present
in
Hungarians
have
European
origin
from
the
Neolithic
era
and
have
connections
with
modern
Danish, Belgian, Dutch and Basque populations, as well as with neighboring populations (Serbs, Croats, Slovaks, Romanians, etc.).
The
most
present
haplogroups
in
the
Hungarian
population
are
haplogroups
specific
only
to
European
populations,
they
are
absent
in
other
parts
of
the
world,
85%
of all these haplogroups are exclusively or predominantly European genes, and of these, two haplogroups represent about 50% of the total fund genetic.
At
the
same
time,
it
was
found
that
the
modern
Hungarian
population
has
only
a
small
genetic
contribution
(less
than
3%)
from
Hungarian
tribes
that
migrated
from
the Caucasus and conquered the territory that became their homeland.
See the genetic differences between today's Hungarians and those who conquered the Pannonian Plain.
Other
genetic
studies
based
on
variations
in
the
human
genome
have
concluded
that
the
vast
majority
of
subjects
examined
belong
to
common
haplogroups
in
other
European populations, and haplogroup M, which is classified as a haploid trait for Asian populations, is found to be about 2.5% of the total modern Hungarian population.
The
analyzed
evidence
showed
that
Hungarians
-
mostly
-
are
descendants
of
European
populations,
dating
back
to
the
Neolithic,
in
combination
with
Danes,
Belgians, Dutch, Basques, Serbs, Croats, Slovaks, Romanians, Ukrainians.