"Dumitru Mărtinaş" Roman-Catholic Association representing Roman-Catholics of Moldavia (so called "Changos", French - Tchangos, Hungarian - Csangok, German - Tschangos)
Romano-catolicii din Moldova (Romania) - Roman Catholics from Moldavia - Romania - people so called csangos - românii denumiți ceangăi, Tchangos
the Romanian origin of Roman Catholics from Moldavia and their membership at the Romanian cultural space
Council of Europe about Roman Catholics in Moldova The Romanian identity of the Moldavian Catholics is recognized by the Council of Europe in the report on respecting the rights of the ethnic and religious minorities in Romania, where (following the verifications made by the European institutions), it is found that the situation of the "Csangos" can only be understood taking into account the concrete results. from this territory, this document referring to the 2002 census on the territory of Bacău county, where most Catholics live - so called "Csangos" from Hungarian literature - an occasion on which only 1769 people declared themselves "Csango", while in Bacau county they are 119,618 Roman Catholic believers. This document recognizes the existence of Romanians of Roman-Catholic religion, respect for their rights, their coexistence with Romanian citizens of other religions and also recognizes the truth, respectively that the citizens of Roman-Catholic religion are Romanians, not "Csango-Magyar" or "Hungarians".
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THE GOVERNMENT OF ROMANIA CONFIRMS THAT ROMAN CATHOLICS FROM MOLDAVIA ARE ROMANIANS

Roman Catholics from Moldavia, in 1848  An important moment in asserting the Romanian ethnicity of the Catholics in Moldavia is confined to the year 1848 when Mihail Kogălniceanu in the Wishes of the national party in Moldavia, supports through points 25 and 26 the political rights of the Catholic lands, but also their Romanian identity.     The Romanianness that the pasteurist attributes to the Moldovan Catholics comes from the very title of point 25 of the above-mentioned revolutionary program: Organization of the Catholic clergy for Romanians of this religion. Thus, we are told that "Roman Catholics" live in more than 50,000 in Moldova, but the government did not deal with their moral or religious education.     Regarding the Catholic clergy, point 25 states that he is a foreigner and does not receive any support from the state, so "it is imperative that these children of the homeland also take part in public services. Their clergy must, however, be organized and maintained, like the other known clergy, at the expense of the state. The old gentlemen knew this too well, and the only income the Catholic church has in Moldova comes from the old royal gifts. "     The Romanian identity of the Catholics in Moldova is augmented by point 26 of the Wishes of the national party in Moldova, where Kogălniceanu considers that the Orthodox believe themselves the only ones able to have political rights, but "the history and the documents prove that, in the times before, the Catholics used the it looks like rights. And even today among the Moldavian Catholics there are some who have come to the use of political rights, and others have inherited the estates from the old lands. There are several yeoman villages varnished by Catholics. Political rights, and this is what the era requires, must be given to all Romanians under Catholic law ... ”.  Politicians confirm and support the rights of Roman Catholics from Moldavia
Roman Catholics from Moldavia and the current European reality
Roman Catholics from Moldavia during the military dictatorship (1940-1944) Even before the establishment of the military dictatorship in Romania, the Roman Catholics in Moldavia were accused of being of Hungarian origin, being called "Hungarians", "Csangos", "Boanghine" and considered foreigners and enemies of the country. These accusations brought to Roman Catholics - sometimes even by public authorities - caused Bishop Mihai Robu to send a memorial to Marshal Ion Antonescu, on March 6, 1943, in which he denounced the campaign of persecution of Catholics in Moldavia, asked the marshal to analyze the existing situation and to arrange measures, arguing that Roman Catholics are peaceful citizens and do their duties to the country like their Orthodox brethren: they give bureaus, pay taxes, make army, listen to their superiors, I do not have hostile feelings for the country, I do not know any other country than their Romanian country, they all feel Romanian and are proud to be Romanian, and it hurts their heart to be considered foreigners or Hungarians only because they are Catholic. The memory of Bishop Mihai Robu was analyzed in the meeting of the Council of Ministers of March 17, 1943, when the position of the Government of Romania towards the Roman Catholic Church was reiterated. In the decision taken, the government fully endorsed the aspects reported by the bishop of Iasi and decided to launch an investigation into this "serious issue", deciding to punish all the officials involved, the Romanian Government concluding that "the Catholic population of Moldavia they is Romanian of origin and, therefore, is wrongly considered to be of Hungarian origin (Csangos) ... and cannot be considered foreign by our people ... " . In a letter addressed to Bishop Mihai Robu on March 18, 1943, the Vice-President of the Council of Ministers, Professor Mihai Antonescu, stated: "With particular regard to the situation of the Catholic population in Moldavia, which is of Romanian origin, denationalized and mistakenly considered to be of of Hungarian origin (Csangos), I gave instructions to both the Minister of Justice and the Minister of the Interior to show all prefectures and local government bodies that these populations cannot be considered foreign by our people and with so much less to practice against them the wrong means. " This letter was sent by Bishop Mihai Robu, on April 3, 1943, to all parish priests in Moldavia. Optimistically, the bishop demanded to inform Catholic believers that the Romanian Government respected the Catholic faith and that "the Romanian ethnic origin is recognized by all Catholics in Moldova." Although the report of the bishop Mihai Robu, analyzed in the meeting of the Council of Ministers of March 17, 1943, received a favorable response, and the Antonescu Government decided to launch an investigation into this "serious aspect" and to punish all the officials involved in such phenomena of "Catholic demise", the situation has not improved. Some priests began to report new cases of violation of the rights of Catholics, which caused Bishop Robu to address the Prime Minister on May 14, June 5, July 13, and August 3, 1943. In his memoirs, the bishop of Iasi demanded that the Government of Romania comply with the decision of March 17, 1943, punishing the officials guilty of sabotaging this decision, which began to issue "certificates of ethnic origin Csango", thus causing confusion and uneasiness among the faithful. In the last letter addressed to the Prime Minister, on August 3, 1943, Bishop Mihai Robu requested that the certificates issued "to the ethnic group of the Romanian nationals" not mention the name "csango", because it is arbitrary, has no historical basis and it is equivocal, and can lead to the "denial of the rights of Roman Catholics". After these interventions, the problems reported by Bishop Mihai Robu seemed to be officially resolved, but there were some local abuses. See sources http://www.ercis.ro/lumina/numar.asp?an=2002&numar=2&id=30 http://www.ercis.ro/lumina/numar.asp?an=2002&numar=3&id=52

The Romanian origin of the “csangos” is confirmed even by the Szekely priest Zöld

Péter, creator of the name “csango-magyar” (“ceangău” - in Romanian).

Following his passage through Moldova, the priest of the Szekler Zöld Péter ascertained the existence of the population of Roman Catholic religion in this area of ​​Romania and about these persons he noted that "... their clothing is Romanian, cheap and is worked by their wives ..." and that they are bilingual "... everyone knows and speaks Romanian and Hungarian ..." (in the current, ordinary language, they use Romanian and Hungarian) but that "... they speak Hungarian poorly ..." (in the language used there is a mixture of Romanian and Hungarian words) . The description given by the Szekler priest Zöld Péter to those whom he called "csango-magyar", is important because it confirms that Roman Catholics from Moldavia dress in Romanian clothes, worked by them in their own households, know and speak Romanian better than I know and speak Hungarian. This description of Roman Catholics allows conclusions to be drawn based on the following reasoning: TRADITIONAL POPULAR COSTUMES Roman Catholics from Moldova could not be Hungarians dressed in Romanian clothes . Roman Catholics from the period when Zöld Péter visited Moldavia, as well as their descendants to this day, still wear the clothing they are accustomed to, a popular port inherited from the ancestors and used traditionally, by over the centuries, being known that - throughout the world - the traditional popular port is preserved by peoples, nations, ethnicities, groups of people, etc. this being considered a duty, an honor and a pride of the members of a community and - at the same time - it is the proof of the belonging of the people to a certain community. In the case of the “Csangos”, the Romanian popular port, the traditional Romanian clothing worn by Roman Catholics in Moldavia, is the proof of their belonging to the Romanian nation. THE TRADITIONAL WORKMANSHIP OF THE TISSUE From the description made to the Moldavian Roman Catholics by the priest Zöld Péter, it turns out that the costumes are "Romanian" and "cheap" clothing, worn by them, "is worked by their wives" in their own households, which means that the Roman-Catholic wives knew the technique of weaving the cloths necessary for the realization of the articles of clothing and they dealt with this task spread throughout the territory of Romania, practiced within the peasant households of Romanians of Orthodox religion and Romanians of Roman Catholic religion. The tissue craft resulting in Romanian clothing is certainly a traditional Romanian task and is the proof that Roman Catholics who practiced this craft are Romanians, as it is impossible for Roman Catholics in Moldavia to be Hungarian and to be assimilated by Romanians in the process of the alleged assimilation they were forced to acquire the traditional Romanian weaving technique, resulting in Romanian clothing items. This argument leads to the conclusion that Roman Catholics from Moldavia are excluded to be Hungarians. TRANSYLVANIAN ROMANIAN LANGUAGE The Transylvanian language of Roman Catholics is another proof that they are Romanians, as they are not Hungarians assimilated to Moldavia. In such an event, the so-called "csango" would not speak Romanian at all or they would have spoken - at most - imperfect Moldavian wheat (due to an alleged assimilation in Moldova) and would not have used a Transylvanian language, with a complete and well-learned vocabulary. We mention that Zöld Péter, the creator of the name "csango" did not make any arguments that the "csangos" would be Hungarians, he only described Roman Catholics in Moldavia and because they were a category of people who spoke Romanian and Hungarian, Zöld Péter took named: Csango-Magyar, respectively mongreled Hungarians (linguistically) - those who speak a Hungarian language (he could call it csango-román, because Roman Catholics spoke and Romanian! ???). Subsequently - for propaganda purposes - it was claimed that the "Csangos" would be Hungarians, without even giving arguments. .
Confirmation of the Romanian origin of Roman Catholics in Moldova, as recorded by Professor Dumitru Mărtinaș, in his book - "The origin of the Csangos from Moldavia" • Dimitrie Cantemir noted about the Catholics of his time, that they declare themselves Catholics by race and religion. In the Ad-hoc Divan (parliament) of Moldavia, Mihail Kogălniceanu defended the rights of Moldavian Roman Catholics, rejecting a draft law that would have left Moldavian Catholics without rights. Costache Negri defended the rights of Moldavian Catholics, asserting that they "... with us, for centuries, in all our days of pain and bitterness, have at the same time pulled and endured all the sufferings that the Lord God has shown us to bear, to bring us to wisdom and justice today nine of us ... ” . Sever Pop Linguist (1901-1961), author of the Romanian Linguistic Atlas, wrote “The female costume, from the region, has nothing Hungarian; on the contrary, it offers all the characteristics of the costumes in the mountain region of Moldavia ” . In 1887, Ballagi Aladár, the president of the Hungarian Geographical Society, visited the village of Cleja from Bacău county, an occasion he could not hide his surprise by saying about the inhabitants of the village that “… they seem to be Wallachians. Not only the port but also their physiognomy carry the Wallachian imprint… ” . In 1787, Count d 'Hauterive, secretary of the ruler Alexandru Mavrocordat, mentioned in a memo that the Moldavian Csangos are passionate dancers and skilled performers of Romanian dances. Speaking about Roman Catholics in Moldova, the historian Nicolae Iorga expressed admiringly the surprise with the Romanian dress of the Csángians described by him "... with beautiful fallnic ports ..." , whose women wrap their heads "... in big white broboades, in all such first their size and by the way they are trapped, with those of the girls and the wives of the mountain of Fagaras ... " , the great historian concluding that the Csangos " ... are not as far from strangers as one might suspect ... " . Roman Catholics in Moldova about themselves In the description of Moldova, Dimitrie Cantemir - mentioning the existence of Catholics in this territory - notes that they avoided saying that they were Hungarians and that they were talking about them, they were called Catholics. The geographer Victor Tufescu (the founder of modern geography in Romania) noted that "... almost everywhere, in the Csangos villages no Hungarian speech is heard and the so-called Csangos from there are considered insulted if they are called Hungarians and not Romanians ..." . The Hungarian writer Ignácz Rózsa (1909-1979) who traveled through Moldova notes the total absence of Hungarian consciousness and the vigorous re-escalation of Romanian patriotism to the inhabitants of Luizi Călugăra, Bacău county. Excerpt from the work "The origin of the Csangos from Moldavia" - author Dumitru Mărtinaș

SECRET SERVICES

ABOUT ROMAN CATHOLICS FROM MOLDAVIA

Sometimes, during turbulent historical periods, during wartime or when foreign agents acted on Romanian territory in the areas inhabited by Roman Catholics in Moldavia (the so-called "Csangos"), the Romanian secret services supervised the activities carried out in the area. The conclusion of the Romanian secret services was always the same: - Roman Catholics from Moldavia declare themselves Romanians, are loyal to the Romanian state and do not constitute a danger to national security. A good example is the period before the First World War, when the Hungarian authorities planned to lure "Csangos" into anti-Romanian politics. In April 1914, just four months before the start of World War I, the journalist Fenyes László wrote articles in the newspapers Az Est in Budapest, Neue Frei Presse in Austria, Berliner Tageblat in Germany, L'Eclaire in France and Daily Chronic in London , arrived in Romania for "documentation". This journalist was in fact an agent of the Hungarian secret services visited several villages inhabited by Roman Catholics, from the region of Moldavia (Romania), being followed by agents of the State Security. The journalist Fenyes László left disappointed in the area, after all the "csangos" firmly claimed: "... we are Romanians ..." and a Roman Catholic priest even warned him to hand over the State Security, after the journalist Fenyes László tried to get him to collaborate. Regarding the Romanian citizens of the Roman Catholic religion, the reports prepared by the State Security agents who supervised Fenyes László, conclude that the so-called "Csangos" are considered Romanians and are loyal to the Romanian state.
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MtDNA and Y chromosome polymorphisms in Hungary,

Csángó and the Székely populations

DNA

tests

to

establish

the

ethnic

origin

of

the

Csangos

have

established

that

from

the

genetic

point

of

view

(as

well

as

the

traditional culture), Roman Catholics from Moldavia (Csangos) are Romanians and are different from Hungarians.

From

comparing

the

frequency

of

haplogroups

present

in

the

Hungarian

population

with

the

frequency

of

haplogroups

present

in

other

populations,

that

Roman

Catholics

in

Moldavia

(Csangos)

have

the

J

haplogroup

in

about

8%

while

the

Hungarians

have

this

haplogroup

in

about

4

%.

This

haplogroup

exists

since

the

Paleolithic

and

is

present

in

European

populations,

populations

in

northern

Africa and populations in the Arabian Peninsula.

The

high

frequency

of

the

haplogroup

J

in

the

genome

of

what

the

Hungarians

call

"Csangos"

shows

that

Hungarians

and

"Csangos"

are different and

"Csangos" and Hungarians have European origins

.

Haplogrupo

H

is

specific

to

European

populations

and

is

found

in

26%

of

Roman

Catholics

in

Moldavia

(Csangos)

and

28%

in

the

Hungarian

population.

The

high

frequency

of

this

haplogroup

is

the

proof

that

the

Roman

Catholics

of

Moldova

(Csangos)

and

Hungarians are the descendants of the European populations that lived in this area about 28,000 years ago.

The

low

frequency

of

the

haplogroup

M

in

Roman

Catholics

in

Moldova

(Csangos)

-

about

1%

-

and

in

the

Hungarian

population

-

about 2,5% - shows that some are not of Asian origin.

Haplogroup

N

,

which

is

specific

to

Asia

and

Australia,

is

found

with

a

low

frequency

among

Roman

Catholics

in

Moldova

(Csangos)

-

1% and only 2,5% in the Hungarian population.

M

and

N

haplogroups

are

also

found

in

other

European

populations,

in

small,

unimportant

proportions,

and

their

presence

is

justified

by

contact

with

populations

of

Asian

origin,

either

through

insignificant

migration,

or

from

contacts

between

Asians

and

European populations during the invasion of some peoples from Asia (Mongols, Turks, Tatars, etc.).

It

is

estimated

that

0.5%

of

Europeans

are

the

descendants

of

the

Mongols

following

their

passage

through

Europe

on

the

occasion of the great Mongol invasion of the 13th century.

Of

the

European

people,

the

Finns

are

the

exception,

with

the

haplogroup

N

being

present

at

60%,

which

proves

that

they

have

Asian

origins

and

that

they

are

different

from

the

Hungarians.

The

only

similarity

between

Finns

and

Hungarians

is

the

spoken

language,

which

comes

from

the

same

group

of

Finno-Ugric

languages,

today's

Hungarians

having

no

Asian

origins,

being the descendants of some European populations linguistically Magyarized.

Between

Hungarians

and

Csangos,

there

are

significant

differences

in

the

frequency

of

other

haplogroups,

such

as:

T

haplogroup

which

has

1%

frequency

in

Hungarians

and

only

3,5%

in

Csangos,

the

haplogroup

F

which

in

Hungarian

is

present

in

a

proportion

of

2,5%

and

in

the

Csangos

is

missing,

the

haplogroup

K

which

in

the

Hungarians

is

in

the

proportion

of

2%

and

in

the

Csangos

in

the

proportion

of

5%,

as

well

as

in

relation

to

the

frequency

of

haplogroups

E

,

I

and

X

which

is

different

in

Hungarians

and

Cangos,

but

also

in relation to the frequency and other haplogroups (2.5% in total) present in the Hungarian population and missing in Cangos.

Genetic

tests

on

Romanians,

Hungarians

and

Csangos

were

performed

by

prestigious

scientific

institutions

in

Europe,

the

USA

and

even by researchers at the University of Budapest.

Even

scientists

of

Hungary

have

found

important

differences

between

the

Csangos

and

Hungarians,

Csangos

and

Székely,

the

differences being motivated by the geographical isolation of the Csangos.

This

argument

of

geographical

isolation

of

the

Csangos

from

the

Hungarians

and

from

the

Székely,

for

a

period

of

300

years,

500

years

or

800

years

does

not

justify

the

genetic

differences

between

the

Csangos

and

Hungarians

or

Csangos

and

Székely

because

the

haplogroups

analyzed

(gene

groups)

highlighted

and

considered

in

the

final

result,

constitute

a

very

old

genetic

background,

is

genes

with

a

20,000

year

old

or

even

50,000

years

old,

so

a

geographic

isolation

of

the

Csangos

for

a

period

of

up

to

1,000

years,

does

not

influence the result of the analysis.

Cgangos

are

different

from

Hungarians

and

this

was

established

by

highlighting

gene

groups

(haplotypes)

older

than

the

period spent by Hungarians in Europe.

Different

genetic

tests

have

established

that

the

population

of

Hungary

today

have

European

origin

and

non-Mongolian

origin,

Hungarians

are

not

genetically

related

to

the

Hungarian,

Hune,

Turkish

or

Finnish-speaking

populations

(Finns,

Estonians),

not

genetically

related

to

populations

from

the

Caucasian

area

or

the

Iranians

but

the

Hungarians

are

the

descendants

of

the

European

population that existed in Panonia and the Carpathian Basin before the arrival of the migratory tribes and Magyarized by the elites.

Hungarians

are

a

mixture

of

Romanians,

Slavs,

Germans

and

Gypsies,

linguistically

Magyarized,

today's

Hungarians

being

genetically the closest to Slavs, Romanians and Gypsies.

The

genetic

diversity

of

Hungarians

is

extremely

high,

reaching

over

90%

in

the

analyzed

samples,

collected

from

Hungarians

selected

by

scientific

methods

(example

-

not

to

be

related

to

one

another,

living

in

an

extended

geographical

area).

This

analysis

make

it

possible

to

identify

over

70

different

subclasses

of

mitochondrial

DNA

in

the

Hungarian

genome,

the

analysis

revealing

the

genetic

influence of populations from different parts of Europe and Asia, the contribution of European populations being 84%.

At

least

70%

of

the

haplotypes

of

ancestors

found

in

Hungarians

demonstrate

their

genetic

resemblance

to

European

and

Eastern

and

Western

Slav

populations

(haplogroups

R1a,

R1b,

I1A,

I1b,

I1c

and

subclasses

H1c23a,

H2a1c1,

I2b1a6)

,

while

the

influence

of

Asian populations is very little visible (haplogroups M, N and subclasses A12a, C4a1a)

The

results

show

that

the

majority

of

modern

Hungarian

maternal

lines

have

European

origin

from

the

Neolithic

era

and

links

with

the

modern

Danish,

Belgian,

Dutch

and

Basque

populations,

as

well

as

with

neighboring

populations

(Serbs,

Croats,

Slovaks,

Romanians, etc.).

The

most

present

haplogroups

in

the

Hungarian

population

(28%

and

22%

respectively),

are

haplogroups

specific

only

to

the European populations, these being absent in other areas of the planet.

At

the

same

time,

it

was

found

that

the

modern

Hungarian

population

has

only

a

small

genetic

contribution

(below

3%)

from

Hungarian ancestors who conquered the territory that became their homeland.

Other

genetic

studies

based

on

human

genome

variations

have

concluded

that

the

vast

majority

of

subjects

examined

belong

to

common

haplogroups

in

other

European

populations,

and

haplogroup

M,

which

is

classified

as

a

haploid

trait

for

Asian

populations,

accounts for approximately 2,5% of the total Hungarian population.

Analyzing

the

genome

of

the

current

Hungarian

population

(all

genes),

it

was

found

that

84%

of

their

totality

are

exclusively

European

genes,

and

of

these

two

haplogroups

represent

about

50%

of

the

total

genetic

background;

11%

of

the

total

genetic

background

of

the

current

Hungarians

are

genes

found

in

populations

in

North

Africa,

the

Arabian

Peninsula

and

South

Asia

(but

not

exclusively) and 5% are genes specific to Central Asia, the Caucasus, and genes specific to the Finno-Ugric people.

The

evidence

analyzed

showed

that

the

Hungarians,

for

the

most

part,

are

descendants

of

European

populations,

coming

from

Neolithic times, in combination with Danes, Belgians, Dutch, Basque, Serbs, Croats, Slovaks, Romanians, Russians, Ukrainians, Gypsies.

Today's Hungarians are:

42% Magyaryzed Slavs (Ukrainians, Bulgarians, Russians, Poles, Serbs, Croats, Slovenians);

25% Magyaryzed Romanians;

13% Magyaryzed Czechs and Slovaks;

8% Magyaryzed Roma peoples (Gypsies);

7% other Magyaryzed peoples (Danish, Dutch, Basque, etc.);

3% of the descendants of the Hungarian conquering tribes;

2% other Asian, Caucasian, Uralic populations;

These

approximate

percentages

(with

reasonable

error)

result

from

the

studies

and

the

scientific

reports

presented

on

the

specialized

sites

in

genetic

research,

for

which

there

are

links

at

the

lower

of

this

page,

the

arguments

being

clear

and

indisputable,

respectively

the

genetic

similarities

between

Hungarians

and

the

mentioned

peoples,

the

identity

and

frequency

of

haplogroups

and

subclasses

found

in

the

modern

Hungarian

population

compared

to

the

haplogroups

and

subclasses

found

in

these

European

peoples

but also the genetic identity of Hungarians with the population of India (with which the Hungarians were not related).

Genetic

identity

with

the

population

of

India

is

the

consequence

of

the

Magyaryzation

population

of

Roma

(Gypsies),

bearers

of

the

genetic

background

specific

to

the

population

of

India

,

being

known

that

the

Roma

migrated

to

Europe

over

1000

years

ago,

coming

from

the

north

of

India

and

to

the

territory

of

Hungary

they

migrated

in

particular

in

two

massive

waves,

respectively

in

the

XIV

-

XV

centuries

and

in

the

XVIII

-

XIX

centuries.

Through

their

Magyaryzation,

the

Roma

(Gypsies)

became

Hungarians

so

that

they

are

now

fully

integrated

into

Hungarian

society,

being

completely

assimilated,

most

speaking

only

Hungarian,

but the genetic background of these "Hungarians" shows that they are - at their origin - Roma (Gypsies) from northern India.

Analysis

of

mitochondrial

DNA

samples

(inherited

from

the

maternal

line)

and

DNA-Y

(analysis

of

the

Y

chromosome

-

inherited

from

the

paternal

line),

taken

from

the

Hungarian

population,

concluded

that

only

5%

of

Hungarians

have

Asian

ancestors

but

less

than

3%

of

them

Hungarians

are

the

descendants

of

the

conquering

tribes

from

Asia

and

95%

of

the

Hungarians are descendants of the European population Magyarized over time.

If

we

apply

these

percentages

to

the

size

of

the

population

of

Hungary,

which

-

according

to

official

data

-

is

less

than

10

million

inhabitants,

it

can

be

seen

that

less

than

300,000

Hungarians

are

descendants

of

the

Hunni

conquerors,

about

200,000

Hungarians

are

descendants

of

some

Asian

populations,

Magyarized

either

by

force

or

through

matrimonial

alliances

and

over 9,500,000 Hungarians are descendants of the European populations who have lived here since ancient times.

Genetic analysis, DNA tests about the ethnic origin of the "Csangos" in Moldavia

and combating theories on the ancestors of the Hungarian population

COMPARATIVE GRAPHIC

with the genetic structure of the Romanians, "Csangos", Hungarians

and the conquerors of the Arpadian dynasty

SIMILARITIES AND DIFFERENCES between Romanians, "Csangos", Hungarians and conquerors from the Arpadian dynasty
* * * * * * * * * * This graph was made based on the data obtained by accessing the links below.
CONCLUSIONS The comparative graph and the scientific studies based on the analysis of DNA samples, located on specialized sites, as it results from accessing the links presented below, confirm that the Csangos are more similar to Romanians than to Hungarians who are similar to European populations. The Hungarians of today are very different from the conquerors who came from Asia. The modern Hungarian population is very similar to the European populations, being similar even to the Romanian population, many of the Hungarians are Romanians at their origin but linguistically Magyarized (about 25% of Hungarians are - in fact - Magyaryzed Romanians). Today's Hungarians are not even of Finno-Ugric origin, with very large differences between the Hungarians and the Finns regarding the frequency of the haplogroup N (specific to the Asian populations), which in Finns is about 60% and in Hungarians it is only 2.5%, so that the Hungarians have in common with the Finns only the language, which comes from the same family of Finno-Ugric languages, the Hungarians are - by a large majority of 95% - a European population, linguistically Magyarized in 1,000 years.
Haplogroup A is widespread in central Africa, but it is also present in the populations of Asia Minor, Turks, Palestinians, East Asia, Mongols, Chinese and Japanese, being little widespread in Europe. The high frequency of this haplogroup in the conquerors of the Arpadian dynasty, compared to a small frequency in the modern Hungarian population, is the proof that the Hungarians are not the descendants of the conquerors who came from Asia.
Haplogroup D is widespread in Central and Southeast Asia, being little widespread in Europe and Western Asia. The high frequency of this haplogroup in the conquerors of the Arpadian dynasty, compared to the insignificant frequency of this haplogroup in the modern Hungarian population, is the proof that the Hungarians are not the descendants of the conquerors who came from Asia.
Haplogroup E is widespread in Europe and western Asia. This haplogroup is present in Romanians, Csangos, Hungarians but is absent in the conquerors of the Arpadian dynasty.
Haplogroup H is the most frequent haplogroup in Europe, the Middle East and Central Asia - the Caucasus region. This haplogroup has a high frequency in the Romanian population, in the Csangos and the Hungarian population, as well as in the conquerors of the Arpadian dynasty, who migrated from Asia and settled in the Pannonian plain.
Haplogroup I is very present in Europe and especially in the western part of the continent, its high frequency in Romanians, Csangos and Hungarians being the proof that all these populations are of European origin. This haplogroup specific to the European populations, is little present in the conquerors of the Arpadian dynasty. The large difference between the frequency of this haplogroup in Hungarians and conquerors of the Arpadian dynasty, proves that modern Hungarians are (to a large extent) the descendants of European populations and not the descendants of the conquerors who came from Asia.
Haplogroup J is widespread in Southern Europe, North Africa, West Asia, Central and South Asia. This haplogroup is present in Romanians, Csangos, Hungarians and conquerors of the Arpadian dynasty.
Haplogroup M is specific to Asian populations and very little present in European populations. The presence of this haplogroup in the conquerors of the Arpadian dynasty and insignificant frequency in the modern Hungarian population, is the proof that the Hungarians are not the descendants of the conquerors who came from Asia.
Haplogroup R with subclasses R1a and R1b is the most widespread in Western Europe in Anatolia, Central Asia and sub-Saharan Africa. This haplogroup is little present in the conquerors of the Arpadian dynasty. The large difference between the frequency of this haplogroup in Hungarians and conquerors of the Arpadian dynasty, proves that modern Hungarians are (to a large extent) the descendants of European populations and not the descendants of the conquerors who came from Asia.
Haplogroup T is widespread in the Middle East, Central Asia and little widespread in Southern Europe, respectively Greece Italy and Spain. The high frequency of this haplogroup in the conquerors of the Arpadian dynasty, compared to the low frequency of this haplogroup in the modern Hungarian population, is the proof that the Hungarians are not the descendants of the conquerors who came from Asia.
Haplogroup U is widespread in northern and eastern Europe, in central Asia, western and southern Asia and slightly widespread in the rest of Europe. The high frequency of this haplogroup in the conquerors of the Arpadian dynasty, compared to the low frequency of this haplogroup in the modern Hungarian population, is the proof that the Hungarians are not the descendants of the conquerors who came from Asia.
Haplog group F is widespread in South and Southeast Asia. This haplogroup is present in Hungarians but is absent in Csangos and Romanians.
Genetic structure of the current population of Hungary
Persons interested in verifying the correctness of the data presented above, can access the specialized sites for genetic research and those for documentation, for which there are links lower.

Links about genetic structure of “csangos”,

scientific reports, studies, genetic analyzes.

The Csangos are different from the inhabitants of Budapest 1 READ HERE SCIENTIFIC REPORT Csangos and Hungarians have European genetic background but they are different 2 READ HERE SCIENTIFIC REPORT Frequency of haplogroups in Hungarians and Csangos - comparative graphic 3 READ HERE ANNEX to a scientific report Csango are different from Hungarians and Szekley 4 READ HERE SCIENTIFIC REPORT Csángó population which is clearly different from the Székely populations 5 READ HERE DOCUMENTATION with reference to a scientific report The Szekley population are different from Csangos 6 READ HERE DOCUMENTATION with reference to a scientific report Under 3% of Hungarians are descendants of conquerors from Asia 7 READ HERE DOCUMENTATION with reference to a scientific report Hungarians have only 5% incidence of ancestors with Asian origine 8 READ HERE DOCUMENTATION with reference to a scientific report Population of Hungary it has European origin (Magyarized)  9 READ HERE DOCUMENTATION with reference to a scientific report Hungarians - small incidence of ancestors with Asian origin  10 READ HERE DOCUMENTATION with reference to a scientific report Hungarians do not come from the steppes of Asia - 95% are Europeans 11 READ HERE DOCUMENTATION with reference to a scientific reports Hungarians have 5% common genes with populations in Asia 12 READ HERE SCIENTIFIC REPORT Biggest haplogrups of Hungarians (28 % and 22 %) are found only in Europe 13 READ HERE SCIENTIFIC REPORT Hungarians are different from Szekely - genetic analysis 14 READ HERE SCIENTIFIC REPORT Hungarian genetic markers are 84 % exclusively European 15 READ HERE DOCUMENTATION with reference to a scientific report Hungarians have 13 % common genes with Czechs and Slovaks 16 READ HERE SCIENTIFIC REPORT Hungarians are similar with Basques, Poles, Slovenes and Slovaks 17 READ HERE SCIENTIFIC REPORT Hungarian mitogenomes similar to East and West Slavs 18 READ HERE DOCUMENTATION with reference to a scientific reports Human genetics in India - affinities with the population of Hungary 19 READ HERE SCIENTIFIC REPORT Roma peoples are 8% of the population of Hungary 20 READ HERE DOCUMENTATION with reference to a scientific reports Genetic frequency of Roma (Gypsies) in Hungary and other European countries 21 READ HERE DOCUMENTATION with reference to a scientific report Origins, admixture and founder lineages in European Roma 22 READ HERE SCIENTIFIC REPORT Graphic with the genetic frequency of Roma (Gypsies) 23 READ HERE ANNEX to a scientific report The Roma (Gypsyes) from Hungary was linguistically Magyaryzed 24 READ HERE SCIENTIFIC REPORT Study on the genome of Hungarian conquerors 25 READ HERE DOCUMENTATION with reference to a scientific reports The genetic diversity of Hungarians 26 READ HERE SCIENTIFIC REPORT Differences between the modern Hungarian population and the Asian conquerors  27 READ HERE DOCUMENTATION with reference to a scientific reports Hungarians are different from the Asian conquerors  28 READ HERE SCIENTIFIC REPORT The haplogroup N very present in Asia is not found in Hungarians 29 READ HERE DOCUMENTATION with reference to a scientific reports Haplogroup N of present-day Hungarians is only marginal (up to 4%) 30 READ HERE SCIENTIFIC REPORT Arpadian dynasty - DNA tests 31 READ HERE DOCUMENTATION with reference to a scientific reports DNA profiling of Hungarian King Béla III and other skeletal from the Royal Basilica 32 READ HERE SCIENTIFIC REPORT with annexes Human genetics in Europe - the old Hungarian population 33 READ HERE DOCUMENTATION with reference to a scientific reports Human Chromosomal Polymorphism in a Hungarian Sample 34 READ HERE SCIENTIFIC REPORT The ethnic structure of the Hungarians from Romania  35 READ HERE DOCUMENTATION with reference to a scientific reports Chromosomal Diversity in Europe 36 READ HERE SCIENTIFIC REPORT Distribution of haplogroups in European populations 37 READ HERE DOCUMENTATION with reference to a scientific reports Map of distribution of haplogroups in European populations  38 READ HERE DOCUMENTATION with reference to a scientific reports The genetic map of Europe - from multiple perspectives 39 READ HERE DOCUMENTATION with reference to a scientific reports Origins, spread and ethnic association of European haplogroups 40 READ HERE DOCUMENTATION with reference to a scientific reports Genetic maps of Europe 41 READ HERE DOCUMENTATION with reference to a scientific reports Notions about haplogroups 42 READ HERE DOCUMENTATION Phylogenetic tree of the Y chromosome haplogroup 43 READ HERE DOCUMENTATION with reference to a scientific reports Distribution of European mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) haplogroups by region 44 READ HERE DOCUMENTATION with reference to a scientific reports The genetic structure of the population from the Romanian historical provinces 46 READ HERE DOCUMENTATION with reference to a scientific reports The population of Transylvania (Romania) resembles the western populations  47 READ HERE DOCUMENTATION with reference to a scientific reports A glance of genetic relations in the Balkan populations  45 READ HERE DOCUMENTATION with reference to a scientific reports

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in establishing a person's ethnicity,

is the DNA test

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